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Is there a way to restore a smashed up ring world so you can settle it?
If not, would be nice if that was added as a kind of mega project like canals in EU4 or something like that if its seen as a mayor undertaking to do.
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You can´t.
Restoring ring worlds also wouldn´t be worth it, they are just simple 4x25 slots gaiaworlds. The real value is that you find ancient factorys on them, which are better then anything you can ever build, and without it they are not really that usefull. If you really intended to repair one ringworld it would cost you so much minerals that you could just built a "conquer the whole galaxy doom stack" instead.
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It'd be awesome if they added a bunch of late game super-projects like ringworlds, planet destroying weaponry, biological warfare weapons, and other non-sensical things
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Maybe not restoring but scanning it for some tech? Or research bonus? I mean technically you would lack technology to rebuild it, right?
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Yea, I would love to see the ability to repair ringworlds and while yes it would probably not be worth it in the late game it can always be a fun little side project for you maybe even build your own in the late game by laying waste to a system with no real value, as well all are probably aware at this point some of the worlds are rather small and sometimes feel rather undervalued imagine converting that into something reminiscent of a fallen empire by creating a giant ring around a sun.
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I think you'll have to wait for
"DLC incoming!"
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Mokael said:
Maybe not restoring but scanning it for some tech? Or research bonus? I mean technically you would lack technology to rebuild it, right?
You can get tech from scanning ring worlds.
I got living metals from surveying one of the sections of.... I forget the name....that trashed ring world that sometimes spawns.
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There's a sweet Ringworld start mod on the workshop, it lets you pick between a 1x25 Destroyed Ringworld, a 4x25 Damaged Ringworld, a 4x25 intact Ringworld and a 12x25 Super Ringworld. It's a little cheaty, but it's a fun RP choice to start on the 1x25 destroyed Ring as your homeworld. Just oozes cool. I 'balanced' it by giving the race non-adaptive to reflect that they are suited to the engineered environment of the Ring.
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Well, if you think about it, a Ringworld is not something that you can easily construct, even at end game tech. You're pretty much destroying all the planets and other stuff in a system to build the dang thing. It's the kind of enterprise your species (or empire) gets up to after you've conquered the galaxy, rather than in the middle of it.
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I would love to build it so much!
I have found many star systems that are just useless for me, so I would love more than anything to just destroy them and rebuild them into ring worlds.
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I would Iike to see late game options to construct galactic,"wonders" like ringworlds or artificial planets.
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I 100% agree, repairing or even building your own ring-worlds would be awesome.
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Building a ringworld would be a nice Victory condition.
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Molikroth said:
You're pretty much destroying all the planets and other stuff in a system to build the dang thing.
Suppose you have a ringworld made out of solid steel, 1km thick, 10km wide and going around the sun at the orbit of the earth. The mass of this would be 3.78330333 × 1022 kilograms. The mass of the earth is 5.972 × 10^24 kg. The ringworld would thus be less then 1% of the mass of the earth.
It's still a buttload of material. However you wouldn't need to break up all the planets to make it.
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keynes2.0 said:
Suppose you have a ringworld made out of solid steel, 1km thick, 10km wide and going around the sun at the orbit of the earth. The mass of this would be 3.78330333 × 1022 kilograms. The mass of the earth is 5.972 × 10^24 kg. The ringworld would thus be less then 1% of the mass of the earth.
It's still a buttload of material. However you wouldn't need to break up all the planets to make it.
You've got your maths seriously wrong there dude.
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TehJumpingJawa said:
You've got your maths seriously wrong there dude.
Radius of earth orbit: 149 million km
Density of steel: 8,050 kg/m3
149 million km * pi * 10 km * 1 km * 8,050 kg/m3 = 3.78330333 × 10^22 kilograms
Where's the mistake?
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keynes2.0 said:
Radius of earth orbit: 149 million km
Density of steel: 8,050 kg/m3149 million km * pi * 10 km * 1 km * 8,050 kg/m3 = 3.78330333 × 10^22 kilograms
Where's the mistake?
In your original post you typed × 1020 kg instead of × 10 ^ 22 kg, but thats just a tad nitpicky.
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I would love this. I'm coming to the end of my first campaign after buying the game and id really like some super heavy tech and construction to do. building ringworlds or discovering the long forgotten technologies of the long dead fallen empires would be lots of fun at this point.
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keynes2.0 said:
Suppose you have a ringworld made out of solid steel, 1km thick, 10km wide and going around the sun at the orbit of the earth. The mass of this would be 3.78330333 × 1022 kilograms. The mass of the earth is 5.972 × 10^24 kg. The ringworld would thus be less then 1% of the mass of the earth.
It's still a buttload of material. However you wouldn't need to break up all the planets to make it.
Just 10 km wide? That sounds very small to me. I know the visuals in Stellaris are not really on one scale (especially comparing ships and planets), but I think a ringworld is at least as wide as the diameter of a moon.
I suppose you would also need a lot of energy to give that amount of material an initial spin in order to create gravity through centrifugal forces (or is there any other concept on how that works on ringworlds?).
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keynes2.0 said:
Radius of earth orbit: 149 million km
Density of steel: 8,050 kg/m3149 million km * pi * 10 km * 1 km * 8,050 kg/m3 = 3.78330333 × 10^22 kilograms
Where's the mistake?
I haven't gone through the maths or physics of this, but in PBS spacetime they go through the calculations of making a dyson sphere, and basically you would need to consume all the smaller planets of the solar system to achieve this. And those are just very thin panes flying in space. I also believe your estimate for the material needed is grossly understated.
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